House of Wolves - A Power Couple's Playbook

In the Trenches of Trading: Lessons from a Pro

November 27, 2023 Randy & Mary Vasquez Episode 4
House of Wolves - A Power Couple's Playbook
In the Trenches of Trading: Lessons from a Pro
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Get ready to conquer the stock and crypto markets as we journey with our special guest, Jose Gerena. This investing maestro not only navigates these rough seas but also mentors others, sharing his insights into the seemingly complex world of stocks and crypto. This episode is going to be a voyage of discovery, starting from Jose's initial foray into investing through an app, to now being a beacon for others.

Trust, consistency, and growth- the three pillars that fortify the world of trading and investing, are dissected in great detail. Together with Jose, we probe into the nitty-gritties of stock market, especially during bear markets, and unlock the potential of crypto as the next big thing. Towards the end, our conversation takes an intriguing turn as we part with a millionaire tip for investing in the market. Remember, the secret to becoming a successful investor lies in learning from the best. So, tune in and let the financial wisdom flow!

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Speaker 1:

Alright, so welcome to the House of Wolves podcast, episode number four. This one's a little bit different. Usually I do it with my wife, mary, but this one we brought on a special guest, my man, jose. Right here We'll get into the introductions real quick. Thought we'd do this a bit different today and bring in somebody who I am very fond of. That's actually teaching me how to invest in a different way, create another income stream for myself and my family, which I think is great. So it kind of shows right in terms of how I'm looking to continue to grow and develop by looking at different avenues as well and not being afraid to learn those avenues. So I brought on Jose, who has been spending some time with me walking me through the process that he's taken and the journey that he's on, and I've learned so much. So we'll get into all of that. But let's go right now with Jose, my man, introduce yourself, tell him who you are, and then we can jump into some questions.

Speaker 2:

Well, randy, it's an honor to be here. Thank you so much for the invitation. My name is Jose Jerena. I teach and I coach and I mentor in the stock market Also the crypto market. Inside the stock market, I also teach how to do options. So, yes, I'm an option trader as well, and it's one of the best things that could happen to any investor in the stock market, for sure.

Speaker 1:

I live in Puerto.

Speaker 2:

Rico. So I came on a mission is to help my friend Randy, and it's been awesome. Thank you so much for the opportunity and everything has been beautiful. I'm very, very pumped up to be to be a part of this podcast. I appreciate the invitation and we're just going to have fun in the process.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's the goal. So tell people how we met. Oh, tell the truth. So so Randy has this cousin.

Speaker 2:

He's a beautiful person. He's a very special friend of mine. I met him because of our relationship that he had. That has to do with my family, my cousin, and when we met he introduced us. We came to his house for a Christmas party for New York and it was the best time I have had to get to see so much love, so much unity in a family. It reminds me about what are the important things. Yeah, so thank you so much for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was a good time. We had a good time. We ate a lot, we drank a lot, we danced a lot. It was awesome. It was awesome. We had a really good time. I had all the family there. You were part of it, so it was pretty cool. And since then we've had a relationship and we've kept that going. So the interesting part is, jose I saw his drive. I saw you know everything that he's willing to do and what he was trying to achieve in his life in just that short bit, and we've stayed in contact throughout the process. We're living here in Florida, in Puerto Rico, but we've stayed connected right, one way or another, and finally we got the opportunity to do some stuff together, which is pretty cool it is. I'm looking forward to much more, right? Oh, you know it. Yeah, you know what's going to happen. So what's been the best part of you being here, besides hanging out with me, right? Oh?

Speaker 2:

definitely. Well, it's been a great opportunity for me to understand the mentality of the people that live here in Florida. Yeah, here progress is something so achievable, right, when you have, you know, the right mindset, the right attitude and you combine all those things with the right action, it works. Yeah, it works, and it's beautiful to actually witness that. I have the opportunity to see how much, how many people in Puerto Rico are trying to get there, are trying to make a better life, and they actually, most of them, move over here to actually have a piece of that, to try that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And it's a great place to live. It's a great place to evolve.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, definitely Awesome, awesome. That's cool, that's cool. I like it. All right, so now for the chit chat. Let's get to the stuff that people really want to know. Yes, sir, like I mentioned and he talked about in his intro as well he invests in stock market, stock market. He does crypto. He's an entrepreneur in a lot of ways. Right, you've started businesses as well, but most recently, you've been teaching and you're taking that to a next level and teaching me on it. So just tell us, how did you get into investing in the stock market and crypto and everything that you do?

Speaker 2:

Well, most people and I have to confess, one of my friends talked to me about it and we started talking about it. He teach me a little bit about this, this app that we used like six, seven years ago. It's called Robinhood, yeah, and we started just like that, but we did not have, we did not have any education per se. So when I see that this could be something you know, profitable, so I decided to take it serious. I mean, if you're going to invest in something, the first test should be invest in yourself and occasion. So to get to the next level, I got into Institute, I got mentorship, I went to different types of classes, I went to different types of courses basic all the way to professional and, honestly, it's the best experience ever because you get to understand what is the process and what are the consequences of taking that process seriously. Right, you become profitable, right, the reason of investing is not oh, I'm investing, no, you have to be profitable, right.

Speaker 1:

So when you educate yourself, when you invest in yourself and education, you know you're going to be profitable. It's magic, yeah, and it's worked for you. I mean six years, six years, but you evolved from that. And correct, I mean one thing you met Robin Hood. I told you I was on that right away. You're like get off that. So that to me showed me that you started off there too, and you evolved into something much greater and higher as well. Just the tools and the resources from the knowledge that you're gaining right.

Speaker 2:

That is correct. I mean, I'm sure you completely understand this. If you want to invest like a professional, you have to use tools right that professional use right, Right.

Speaker 1:

So let's talk about. You said stock market crypto. How about crypto? When did you start with that? Oh, I started crypto like 2018.

Speaker 2:

Right 2018 was my first dip into that. It was fun. It was fun. It wasn't that much profitable. It was new Right. So there was a lot of volatility, but you don't know what you're doing. Obviously, it becomes a little bit more difficult to actually be profitable. So there are a lot of communities and private institutions that they can teach you how to do this the right way, and it's completely incredible All the details that I did not know about that. So, once I get to understand those details, I actually use crypto to be another stream of income besides the stock market and, to be honest with you, every time I had a loss in the stock market, I did it back in crypto. Now it's crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nice, be able to recuperate it, okay, yes, how do you deal with making mention of the volatility that it has at the crypto market? Right, it's completely different, at least, from what I've seen. Right, that's right. Crypto is crazy. It goes up and down and just drops, disappears and sure, versus a stock market that does happen, but not as much as crypto. How do you manage both? Right, because I know people that just do stocks and people just do crypto, and they specialize in that. For you to be able to have this go in both, how are you able to kind of manage both?

Speaker 2:

Well, first of all, traders, we are slaves of volatility. Okay, my mentor showed me that Her name is Abnetis. She's amazing. And when you understand that, you know that you need volatility to actually get ahead, you use that as a tool to actually become even more profitable. Obviously, here's the thing when you are hoping for a result, it's a lose for sure, right? So you need to understand that you always need to guarantee your profits, yeah, and in such a volatile market, you need to understand that you should not be focusing on how much X amount of dollars I'm making. It's a percentage, right. You focus on which percentage it's a smart one to wait for and once it hit that percentage on profits, you get out. Okay. Once you respect that and you repeat that so many times, it becomes a really good habit and you start seeing difference in goals and yeah, Profits, profits, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

So let's take it back and talk about stocks, cryptos, all that. Right now I'm diving in deeper because I think we're going to get to it, but obviously, for people who are listening to this or seeing this, they obviously, if they're interested in stocks, they want to know how do they get it. I mean, you mentioned Robin Hood, you mentioned learning from the classes and the courses and the seminars and the books that you've read and all those parts, but one of the basic, you know three, four things, two things that you tell people when you first start teaching them about it or talking them through it in terms of how they can get started.

Speaker 2:

The first question is a tough one, because people don't like this. I asked them do you like to lose? Okay, what do you think? No, right, yeah. So when you're learning something, when you're starting at something, what is the margin of error Large, right? Yeah? So when you start switching the mindset of instead of seeing failure and you start seeing learning something, I learned something I didn't know. Now I know how not to do it. This is the now. Now I have to figure out what's the correct way to do it. So that's the first thing. If you don't like to lose, then you need to change that mindset, because losing is part of part of to when you got to lose first. Right, that's part of the process. So the second step, it's actually understanding which platform you're going to use. Example, you need tools that will help you to become profitable in the process. So you have the capital, you have the knowledge, you have the motivation, you have a plan. But if you don't understand the platform, yeah, you know that's going to be really difficult for you, right? So so, definitely, you have to understand that there's so many platforms that you can use, but what are the ones that are good for you? I mean, some people have a lot of capital to invest, others they have very small amount of capital, so that has to do with that decision as well. Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to say that.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely, yeah. So a couple of things that you hit on that I think translate across the board, and something that we talk to people about all the time as well, is on the planning you said a lot about you have to have a plan and you have to understand how to use the resources and tools that are available to you, right, yes, I haven't heard you one time in a couple minutes that we've been on here talk about, oh, you jump in and you put a hundred dollars on this stock and you'll win, right, I've heard you talk about the planning, the learning, that part of it that I think people is the hardest thing for people to understand, because you just want to go in and make money, right, right, we are in the area of the microwave yeah, how do you say it?

Speaker 2:

The microwave, yeah, the microwave, yeah. So you see, you put 30 seconds and, yeah, everybody wants everything fast, right. And if you're going to do this, you need to understand that, yes, you will have results, but you need to understand that patience pays Right. It's not fast Right, it takes time Right, especially if you want to grow an account with small capital.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. I love that and the reason why I hit on that is because, again, even on my side, right and stuff, when people ask me about whether it's real estate or business, even fitness or anything, or even my marriage, right, like in terms of it takes time. It takes time. It takes you understanding, it takes you having the right plan, it takes you being consistent throughout the process, right, and it translates into stocks and investing in stocks and crypto as well, right, okay.

Speaker 2:

Let me give you a summary of that. You need three things. The first thing is you need to build trust. You need to trust yourself on the things that are you learning and you're executing, that you're doing it the right way, right. You understand how to do it Right. You need to trust yourself that what you are analyzing, it doesn't matter if it's okay or not. You can't control how much money you lose, right, how much time that money's going to be invested, when's the correct time to actually guarantee your profits. Yeah, it's different things. To build trust, you know. Trust the platform that I'm using, right, that's critical. The second step versus trust. The second step is consistency. You just mentioned that, okay, once you identify what works, you repeat it Right and repeat it and repeat it and repeat it. And a consequence of that is the third step, which is growth.

Speaker 1:

Okay yeah, consistency equals growth, at least for me, right, and for all of us definitely it is.

Speaker 2:

It's like the filming to a lot in the universe.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, agree with that, okay, okay. Well, talk to me about the stock market today, where, in 2022, going into 2023, talk to me about your view in the stock market and where I mean some of the things that you've taught me have already opened my mind right into it and into crypto and all that, but at least into the stock. Talk to me about the stock market in terms of your view of it and how you approach it today and how you plan on approaching me in the future, of course the most.

Speaker 2:

Stock market works through cycles. There's these two things that most, mostly people know there is a bull market and there is a bear market. Okay, and a bull market, which means that everything's going up, everything's getting value. There's hype on the news, right, there's good news all the time, so anybody can make money on a market like that, right, you understand that you buy the dip and you sell the rip. Yeah, right, right. But what happens when we are in a bear market? What happens when that strategy of flipping doesn't work anymore? What happens when you understand that, wait, I can make money as well shorting the market? Mm-hmm, have you heard of Michael Berry? Yeah, I've heard of him. Yeah, that's a great man to vote. It's a great movie.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a great movie, the big short, beautiful.

Speaker 2:

So what I'm trying to get here is that the good traders, the good investors, they prove themselves on how good they are in a bear market. Right, that's a trick when you survive a bear market, when you understand what are the solutions to hedge a bear market you're going to win.

Speaker 1:

No, I think that's the next important thing. But that translates again, I keep going back to it. It translates to anything that you do Correct when you can survive and make money and be successful even in the bad times. Correct Whatever. That is Right. Of course, I have friends who are real estate agents. Right, they're like, hey, when the market is down in real estate, there's a lot of real estate agents that get out of the game. Right, because it's not as easy to make money. That's true. The housing is just not selling, right. Yes, in the business the car business that I'm in same exact thing. How about the people when you're not making money in the low seasons? Right, what are they? They get out of the business. Right, they get one challenge, they get one piece of like this is difficult and they jump out. So for you I'm glad that you mentioned that in terms of if you're really able to make money through the times that the market is low, then you're really investing, your really a trader, right?

Speaker 2:

You're going to be unstoppable. You're going to make money. That doesn't matter where the market goes, because you understand it. Yeah, just never follow the market, just understand it Right, wait for it to come for you and you got this there's opportunities.

Speaker 1:

Either way, there's opportunities. Either way. I like it. Talk to me about crypto. How do you?

Speaker 2:

view that market. For me that's like the golden egg.

Speaker 1:

Is it? It is. I mean, it's scary right now.

Speaker 2:

Nobody wants to be in it because there's I mean, there's little information for the world. You know, right, you have to. Crypto is practically new. Bitcoin was created in 2009 or in 2022. But have you seen how many people, or how much people, have become rich because of understanding the opportunity that that represents understanding? When is the right time to take advantage of that opportunity? Where is my perfect entry?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so like, but is that I mean? But is that real Right? Because because we see, I see a lot of people on Instagram. All of a sudden, you know, on social media, all of a sudden they're, you know, they got one crypto and they're like millionaires and making all this money. Is it real, like people are really making that type of money?

Speaker 2:

in it. There are people that are making that type of money, but these people have been trading for how many days now? Yeah 10,000 days. Yeah, Then you just started. You have 10 days of trading and you want to have the results of that guy that has 10,000 days. Right, it doesn't work like that, right? Once you understand that, then again you respect the process and you will get the results you want, but with patience, right? I mean, let's say here, a lot of my students, they are, they are, they are, they are, you know, you know, in the best moment to start this business, right, why? Because we're in a bear market and we're in the cycle that when this bear market finishes, what will start? Again? A bull market. So when the bear market ends, we will have the best opportunity to get into those projects where everybody has fear, and extreme fear, and they want to sell because they're losing so much money and they're not even considering to buy more.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Right. So all this become, all this is is is part of the knowledge that you have, the education that you have, the mindset that you have. If you're not, if you don't have a strong mindset and doing hard times, doing bear markets, you won't make it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you won't make it. Yeah, that's, that's, that's good. I mean, again, it translates into into anything that you do. Right, if you don't have that, that mindset to be able to our last it, then let's let's flip a little bit right and talk about you teaching it. Yes, because I think that that's really important as well. Right, again, I'll go back to it. On Instagram, I see a lot of people that are, all of a sudden, you know, experts in trading and there's the gurus and they can give you the stock tip and this is what you need to do. There's tons of that happening, especially in a in a in a bear market or bull market, bullish market, right, you see a lot of people that make a little bit of money and, all of a sudden, they're the best at it. But you teach it, right, and you've spent some time with me teaching me through it, learning the basics and learning how to do it, and I've been extremely impressed in your patience and your understanding of how I can work through it. Right, so tell me a little bit about what you do, how you teach it, who you teach it to, and and kind of what you focus on.

Speaker 2:

So everybody wants to learn, but just a few are committed to actually learn. Yeah, there's something that you are experiencing this takes time. You have to invest time to actually study and to practice, obviously. So my students, they understand this, they have this mindset. You have to understand that your self-respect has to transcend your emotions, right? That's very important. If you do not know how to control your emotions, right, you won't be able to make a good decision. All your emotions will, will manipulate the way you make a decision. So if you understand that you're, you have one foot inside and my, I, I. That's the first thing that I teach my students. I have the good luck that most of them understand that when, when they are at that level. So most of it's like understanding the basics of how the market works, what, what it means to see a price action, how, how does the companies or the projects, how they are valued, how they double in value is. Just, you know things. That that that you need to understand to actually become profitable. After that, practice and consistency yeah, so, yeah, my, my, my students are are very impressive people, right, and that's the first step to actually have a really good team is, is, is the mindset yeah, so I'm part of your students, I'm impressed with what you're trying to say.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, so that's, that's good, I like that. So how do you do get students? How do people sign up to your course? How do they get you as a coach? How do they get you as their teacher?

Speaker 2:

Well, the best thing I always say is the word of mouth, so my students use well, you can, you can say what your experience has been, and I think that's the first part, like when someone tells you that they had the experience and they show you the results that you don't need anything else. Yeah, but for everybody else that doesn't have that us as contacts? Obviously we have social media. People can contact me through my Instagram page, my Facebook page, yeah basically Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it.

Speaker 1:

How many of me asked you this question? Because this is, this is a good and I can. I can ask, tell you why? How many people message you or DM you or reach out to you that don't turn out to be your students? Oh my god.

Speaker 2:

So let me give you this example in Puerto Rico. So I have 33 students, yeah, okay, to get to those 33 students, 300 people at least contact right. Right, it's like that, and why? do you think that is Because people get influenced of what they see in social media but they don't understand the reality of it. Right, when they see that it's hard work, that you actually have to study, right, they don't have time for that or, in their mind, they don't want to make time for that. They want the easy way out, the easy profits, the fast based and sure. You can do that first with some things, but other things like this, it requires patience, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I get it and I actually got first because I get people right, same same, similar that want to learn something, some skill that I do and learn about anything. And the minute that I start letting them know, hey, it's going to take X, y and Z and it's not what they want to hear, I'm not telling them, hey, you can just go to the corner and make 100,000. Yes, automatically, I don't hear back from them, right? So I think that's why I mentioned that and it's that mindset that you have to have. Reach out to Jose, reach out to me, to anybody on social media that you want to learn from. And you got to be prepared for the grunt of it, the hustle, the grit that it takes to do it and actually learn the right way, right, and you know how gratifying is that. Oh, it's awesome, it's the best feeling ever Whenever you put the work into something, actually learn it and you see the results. And if you, one of the things that you've told me a lot, what we've been together is the joy that you get of seeing people be successful, right, I think that that's a big piece, too for anybody that's teaching. Yes, and that's another, another shout out. So if, if you have a mentor or teacher or somebody that you're reaching out to and doesn't have that satisfaction of actually wanting to teach you something. Whether they're charging you or not, at the end of the day they have to have that passion to make sure that you're successful. That's right. That's the right teacher. Right, that's the right person to go to. Yes, 100% with you. 100%. Tell me, what would you want to leave everybody with? As, like you know before, if I can say anything, I mean you've given me some tips, but if I can say anything about the stock market, you know, besides emotions and all that, and crypto and all those pieces, what would you say to somebody?

Speaker 2:

So this is a millionaire tip? Yeah, that's, exactly.

Speaker 1:

That's the word that I was waiting for A millionaire tip. What's a?

Speaker 2:

million dollar tip. Million dollar tip. Easy If. If you start falling the market right now, you're going to find an opportunity at the end of this year.

Speaker 1:

Okay, oh, stay tuned, I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2:

So, if you are, saving money to invest yeah don't put it in right now all the valleys, one part of it, you know so you can feel it.

Speaker 1:

There's opportunities to that, there's opportunities.

Speaker 2:

There's good opportunities, but the real opportunity is going to happen at the end of this year and, to be more specific, you have to look into the end of November, beginning of December. That's going to be the best time for you to actually invest that money that you have saved for that opportunity.

Speaker 1:

I like it. I like it. I'm saving all my money. Yes, until the end of the year.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I like it, I like it, invest it, and then we will wait till 2026. Oh okay, and.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to wait that long. I want to make money tomorrow.

Speaker 2:

You can't, you can't, we can stop, but the good thing is that we're going to change a lot of lives with this tip. Okay, yeah, I like it. They take it seriously. My students take it seriously and they know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I have mentors that they changed their lives in four years because they invested in the perfect moment when the market was about to flip for a bull market, and in four years they changed their lives. That's awesome. Cycles and patterns repeat themselves. Absolutely. This is what we're doing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and when we talked about crypto and you said that people that actually have been millionaires through it is they invested early, correct, they were in at the right time. They weren't just jumping in when everybody was saying it.

Speaker 2:

Correct. This is a common mistake when you see the news of something that you should invest in, you're already late.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean you should invest when you hear the rumor. But those rumors you won't find them in the news. You will find them in specific communities and groups that dedicate themselves to actually teach that Right. So that's why you need to educate yourself to not lose those opportunities. And the common people, when they see something going up, they think that it's good to actually to invest. So, to give you an example, there's a meme going around that says when Bitcoin was at $62,000, everybody was investing in it because it was the old time high right Right, almost $67,000. So now that it's actually down at a better price, nobody's investing because they think that it's going to, even for the zipping it's going to get a bit more, and, yes, it will get more, but those are the opportunities.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like it, I like it. So this is just to wrap this up. We're going to take this short. There's so much more that you can tell. You and I have spent a couple of days together and we still haven't covered everything, right? So that's the power of actually jumping on with Jose and getting his teaching and his course and the stuff that he offers, because obviously it takes a lot more time than the short 20, 25 minutes, 30 minutes that we're spending here today. Right, this is quick and easy, but again, the purpose of this was continue to educate yourself, continue to grow, continue to build, continue to learn new things. This is something new for me. I've known about the stock market. I have my retirement, I've invested in it little by little, right, but to take it to another level and really jump in and have the success that Jose and others have had by learning it is something that I want to do. Therefore, I reached out and I'm taking the effort to do the things you say to learn, to plan, to research, to actually do the work so that I can get really good at it. Right, and then hopefully, you know, one day, maybe I don't want to teach it, but maybe one day I'll be able to talk about it as fluently as you can right, because I am getting the education in it. So it's important for us to continue to learn and continue to build on it. One last thing before I did this is power couples. Obviously, me and my wife do this, and it's all about investing and growing, how you grow together. So for you, just leave them with. You know, in terms of how you've grown, not when you don't have to do your significant other, but how you've grown with the power of people and having a team, that's a good one. You didn't expect me to ask that.

Speaker 2:

No, no no, no, you have to ask me that again.

Speaker 1:

So it's the power, the power of having a team, the power of having people you know, having somebody a partner.

Speaker 2:

So by yourself. You know, when you believe in yourself that you will achieve your goals, when you combine that with another one and you make a team and you are a power couple. There's no limits. I like it. There's no limits. You will help me in my worst moments. I will help you in your worst moments. We will celebrate together in our best moments.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's life. That's how it's supposed to be. I like it. I like it. That's a good one. We're going to end it there, because that was perfect. So stay tuned for the next episode. I'll bring my wife back because she can't stay away for too long. She's actually in the room right now watching us, so that's why I said that. But stay tuned for the next episode. We'll bring you some more of this and I'm sure you're going to love it and you're going to like it as we continue to mix it up and bring you value. All right, thank you brother, thank you, man.

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